An eclectic group of individuals who have two things in common: faith in Jesus and a connection to St. John's College. Here we gather, across time and space, to carry on a dialogue.
Sunday, April 30, 2006
Interesting Blogs
Posted by Dwight at 12:31 PM
Here are a few blogs that I like to read (some I read more than others, some I like more than others ;-) )

Baraita
Real Live Preacher
RZIM (links to a page with two awesome podcasts)
dydimustk (shameless plug for my brother)
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Thursday, April 27, 2006
because you brought it up Jackson...
Posted by Kristi at 7:49 PM
Has anyone read anythiing by either N.T. Wright and/or Robert Capon?

I have never read any of their stuff, but both theologians have been recommended to me by various people...

If you know anything about them, please share your reflections or recommended titles...
(I noted the Challenge of Jesus rec, thx! Please share more...)
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  Comment by Blogger Jackson at 7:59 AM, April 28, 2006
do you mean like share more N.T. Wright books that might be good to read? or like share more about the one I already recommended?
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  Comment by Blogger Kristi at 10:39 AM, April 28, 2006
uhhh... either? If one is particularly good, I'd like to know about it. Or if one is not so good, I don't want to waste my time... etc.
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  Comment by Blogger Jackson at 2:09 PM, April 28, 2006
well, I've never actually completed a book by him, but I like what I have read of The New Testament and the People of God and The Resurrection of the Son of God. In particular, I like the role that the concept of story plays in his epistemology, which he develops in the first section of The New Testament and the People of God. It's had a sizeable influence on my own approach to telling stories. Wright is probably at his strongest when he's engaging contemporary/postmodern thinkers and their ideas, because he never puts them in generalized boxes; he takes care to see their valid points, and to offer alternate, hopefully more coherent models where theirs break down. He's smart, humble, and not afraid to make positive claims.
Writing all this good stuff about Wright, it occurs to me that it would be a pretty good use of my time to pick these books of his up again, try to make some progress in 'em!
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Acts 13
Posted by Kristi at 7:48 AM
Dwight: I agree with you... I think Jesus could have had both his incarnation and his death and resurrection in mind when he began his ministry and preaching the gospel... mainly because I think Jesus knew he was the fulfillment of OT prophecy. This doesn't prove it, but I think it's worth checking out what Paul says in Acts 13.

Acts 13:32-39:
And we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers, this he has fulfilled to us their children by raising Jesus, as also it is written in the second Psalm,
‘You are my Son,
today I have begotten you.’
And as for the fact that he raised him from the dead, no more to return to corruption, he has spoken in this way,
‘I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.’
Therefore he says also in another psalm,
‘You will not let your Holy One see corruption.’
For David, after he had served the purpose of God in his own generation, fell asleep and was laid with his fathers and saw corruption, but he whom God raised up did not see corruption. Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, and by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.”
(ESV)

There are a lot of other really good passages in Acts to check out too, like when Peter or Paul are preaching.
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  Comment by Blogger Nate at 1:57 PM, April 27, 2006
Jesus could have been thinking of his death/resurrection, I grant you, but he wasn't SAYING anything explicitly about this. As such, what gospel was he asking people to believe in?

Paul does, indeed, tend to talk like Christ's resurrection is at the core of what belief means, yet Jesus went around preaching a message of repentence and belief which didn't, apparently, require the slightest knowledge of any death/resurrection.
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  Comment by Blogger Kristi at 3:21 PM, April 27, 2006
Very good point Nate... Jesus seemed to like not being explicit often, eh? I think it would help to consider his audience - specifically, that they were Jewish. (The torch being passed on to the disciples to bring the gospel to Gentiles.)

If Jesus' gospel was to demonstrate to the Jewish people that he was the son of God, the promised Messiah (this being what they are called to believe?), then I'm left wondering how much further to take it... IOW, to what extent were the Jewish people waiting for the Messiah or what their conceptions of what it meant if the Messiah came, etc., and whether they would have had any conception that the Messiah would die and be resurrected. It's not clear to me that the "Messianic" passages like in Isaiah 53 would have been understood by first century Jews as linked to the Messiah.
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  Comment by Blogger Jackson at 4:17 PM, April 27, 2006
N.T. Wright has some very good thinking concerning these issues in his book The Challenge of Jesus. I highly recommend it specifically for all of you wondering in what sense Jesus meant the term "gospel" for His ministry!
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Wednesday, April 26, 2006
Re: Mark 1:15
Posted by Dwight at 5:47 PM
So... if the Kingdom of God, is composed of the Church Invisible, the Body of Christ, and the good news is the word of God is Jesus, Mark 1:15 could basically be "The time is here, I am near, repent and believe me."?

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  Comment by Blogger Nate at 8:25 PM, April 26, 2006
I'm assuming you mean Mark 1:14-15.

14 Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, 15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe in the gospel.

Interesting that the "gospel" definitely can't be Christ's death in this passage. What do you think the writer(s) of Mark had in mind, Dwight?

Mark does include the rending of the temple curtain (15:38). It makes me wonder about the possibility of two reconciliations. 1) The incarnation of God as man; 2) the sacrifice of Jesus as a sinless man. The one most often pondered, I think, is the latter--Jesus' blood as the means of reconciliation with the Holy of Holies. But that certainly de-emphasizes what must've been very real to those Jesus was proclaiming to in this early passage of Mark, who would have thought purely of the former.

You clearly have things on your mind, Dwight, but I'm kinda shooting in the dark here in terms of trying to grasp what exactly those things are. Help a brother out, yeah?
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  Comment by Blogger Dwight at 11:32 PM, April 26, 2006
ja, you are right about the verses.

I don't see why he can't be talking about both the incarnation and his death and resurrection here. The time has come (the incarnation) and the kingdom of God (to be ushered in by his death and resurrection) is at hand...

What's on my mind is that I hear long talks on stuff that the closest they get to the gospel is saying "the gospel" or something similar.
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Okay, here's a real bio
Posted by Anonymous at 2:12 PM
I guess that I should take the time to do a real bio, too… This is Rhonda (Franklin) Ortiz, A’04, married and living in Annapolis, attending St. Mary’s Parish (where I was received into the Catholic Church – capital C – two Easters ago), member of Regnum Christi (www.regnumchristi.org), still hoping for babies, working at Caffé Pronto Coffee Roastery (http://www.caffepronto.com/). My husband Jared will be at CUA in DC this fall as an Historical Theology PhD student.

Most recently, I saw a lot of Johnnies at croquet (!) and spoke with Kristi on the phone. I look forward to seeing y’all at graduation, in particular LAM’s little boy, who I’m sure is cute as a button.
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Re:Euangellion
Posted by Kristi at 9:07 AM
I did a simple word study on the word "euangellion" in the Greek, just to see in what contexts the word was used. The closest I got to a definition was in reading Ephesians 1:13:
"In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit..."
I would submit to you that the gospel is the word of truth... it is not merely words... it is the Word... it is Christ, who is the Truth. (John 14:6)

Also, check out 2 Timothy. One of the main themes - to me, it seems - is treasuring the gospel. Take a look at 2 Tim 1:10 and 2 Tim 2:8... Christ "abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel" and it was "the risen Jesus Christ, offspring of David" that was preached in the gospel. I would also submit that unless you preach or proclaim the resurrected Christ, and why this is significant, you are not preaching the gospel.

So basically, if you’re talking about how following Jesus is going to give you prosperity, a new car, success in the business place, happiness, wealth, purpose, energy, yada yada yada you are seriously missing the mark… maybe we need to think more about what the Good News meant for Jesus and his followers – death anyone? Suffering? How about being homeless? Outcast? Despised? Yea… it’s not too “pretty” and won’t give you the warm fuzzies.

Thoughts?

Here is a long list of other qualities of the Gospel:




(Feel free to discuss any of these. It may be interesting to discuss if all these references refer to the same euangellion.)

  • it was first proclaimed by Jesus (Mark 1:14)

  • when Jesus proclaimed it, he brought healing as well (Matt 4:23, 9:35)

  • it is to be believed (Mark 1:15)

  • it is for all nations, peoples, and all of creation (Matt 24:14; Mark 13:10, 16:15)

  • it is a testimony of God's grace (Acts 20:24)

  • it is powerful, and brings salvation (Rom 1:16)

  • it is something to be obeyed (Rom 10:16)

  • it is proclaimed (Mark 14:9, 16:15) and provides a living (different from life) for some (1 Cor 9:14)

  • it is free, not something to make a monetary profit from (1 Cor 9:18)

  • it is veiled to some, the unbelievers (2 Cor. 4:3)

  • it is light, it the glory of Christ (2 Cor. 4:4)

  • it is preached (Acts, 1 Cor 15:1, 2 Cor 2:12, 2 Cor 8:18)

  • it is confessed (2 Cor. 9:13)

  • it is God's, not man's (Gal. 1:11)

  • it brings peace (Eph. 6:15)

  • it is a mystery (Rom 16:25, Eph. 6:19)

  • it is defended and confirmed (Phil 1:7)

  • it is advanced (Phil. 1:12)

  • it is the word of truth (Col 1:5)

  • it is glorious (1 Tim 1:11)

  • it is eternal (Rev 14:6)


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yea, you already know me...
Posted by Kristi at 8:47 AM
... but since I was asking everyone else for a brief bio/intro, I thought I better do one myself too. So I'm Kristi, some call me Miss K, or just Meador. I am from Annapolis class of 2004. I currently live in Kentucky, home to Ale-8 and lots of horses and beautiful rolling hills. It's great, but I miss the water, the sailing and rowing that I enjoyed while at St. John's. I like photography and used to run the darkroom in Annapolis... ::shameless self-promotion:: check out my photos here. (Can't say they're all worthy of hanging on your wall, though. I am not sure the digital realm is wholly good for me... this is also a hot button topic with me :) )

Currently I am a member at a Presbyterian Church in America congregation, www.tcpca.org. I used to be afraid of walking into the doors of a church - any church - but that all changed about 10 years ago.

Since St. John's I've been working misc office jobs, biding my time until I figured out what my next big step would be... and it turns out the next big step is moving to Belarus. (Yea, you might want to pull a map out for that one...) I've been reading classic lit and theology/philosophy... revisited Augustine, Rousseau, Kierkegaard... but otherwise I've been reading new authors. Can't say I have a real favorite Program book, but maybe The Brothers Karamazov comes close... speaking of which, I have a dog named Alyosha. He's an Australian shepherd-border collie mix. Super cute and crazy. As for more contemporary theologians, I enjoy C.S. Lewis.
That's it for now. Further inquiries welcome. Also, keep the bios coming! ;) Or any random fun or conversational stuff...
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Tuesday, April 25, 2006
The Da Vinci Decrode
Posted by Dwight at 8:52 PM
It seems that everyone is reading this book. According to Facebook.com it is the #1 book read by college students (Facebook is a web community site for high-school and college students.) It was in hardcover for freaking ever.
Link to related article that I DID read.

Why?

There are all sorts of books that take pot-shots at Christianity. The story itself isn't a new idea, all sorts of older books on the same "Jesus got married" topic are being sold in the gigantic marketing wave. Dan Brown wrote a similarly craptacular book that didn't sell until Da Vinci Code took off. I've read both. It isn't the author's ability that is selling the books.
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  Comment by Blogger Nate at 7:59 AM, April 26, 2006
It isn't the author's ability that is selling the books.

False! In part, at least. Dan Brown has written a novel which does all the right things to the right degrees and in the right places, and by "right" I mean the quality that makes his book incredibly desirable to the general American public.

It's a testament to the refinement of formula: enough thriller to interest those who don't normally read books, enough tested conventions that most people won't notice the horrible prose, and a conspiracy so directly relevant to one of the central issues (if not THE central issue) of American life.

And what's more popular these days than historical revisionism?

The man's incredibly rich, and he probably deserves it far more than many others who've achieved the same thing.

The book, of course, is one of the most apallingly mediocre bits of academic thievery ever seen, but observations like that can only aid the popularity of a book already so successful.
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  Comment by Blogger Sir Robert at 1:36 PM, May 04, 2006
There's a greater principle at work here. Hearts and minds that have not been solidly fixed to the things of God are swayed by the mind and gut of Satan. The popularity of these books is bipartite:

(1) People (as people have done since the fall) find some titillation in the whispered confidences of those who share secrets, and they breathe deep the wonderful word "conspiracy." It is the upright longing for the kingdom of God applied to a foundation of ignorance. But this apetite doesn't necessarily manifest itself in a desire for this particular; they could easily attach to whatever they may find carried to them by any wind. Then why this book? Why these ideas? Because ...

(2) The unHoly Spirit plays on their hearts and minds. They, of their own will, clamber hungrily for whatever they can devour that may offer them the communion for which they ache. The enemy siezes upon this always, bringing sweet treats from all corners. In the past, he has brought this one before, and even by virtue of that alone, it is easier for them to catch and consume. He sets up each age, each time, each decade, each week, working towards his dastardly plan. Everyone chooses freely -- within the scope of his freedom. The believer is free to choose from among the good things of God, the unbeliever is free only to choose from the diabolical menu laid for them (it is all they can see! They can't see the wind blow, as we can who are blowers of the wind) ... but a choice it is.

So they choose the Da Vinci Code, or they choose something else. It is all treats cooked in the kitchen of the baker of lies. He's been working on this recipe for a long time, so he's gotten it much closer to "perfection" to the pallate of the dead.

The success of the book is not because Dan Brown is a good author, it is in spite of the fact that he is not. He's got a very, very good publicist.

The good news is that all his work is to win a war that has been lost already. Already, it is finished.
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  Comment by Blogger Dwight at 10:30 AM, May 27, 2006
Interesting review of the movie from Roger Ebert...

Here is a little bit:

Let us begin, then, by agreeing that The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction. And that since everyone has read the novel, I need only give away one secret -- that the movie follows the book religiously. While the book is a potboiler written with little grace and style, it does supply an intriguing plot. Luckily, Ron Howard is a better filmmaker than Dan Brown is a novelist; he follows Brown's formula (exotic location, startling revelation, desperate chase scene, repeat as needed) and elevates it into a superior entertainment, with Tom Hanks as a theo-intellectual Indiana Jones.
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Posted by laura at 7:35 PM
Hey y'all! My little family and I are in Meridian, MS, now. Loving the south, but it still ain't Texas...Let me know if you have any questions about the Marine Corps, the Beechcraft T-34, cloth diapers...
-Laura
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  Comment by Blogger Dwight at 9:00 PM, April 25, 2006
what's a Beechcraft T34 cloth diaper?
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Speaking of Gospels...
Posted by Dwight at 6:20 PM
Dallas Willard (apologies to Nate) had a good point calling out the "Gospel of Sin Management." He basically said that much of the church is too worried about controlling sin through various programs and systems.

Here's a link to a related article I haven't read
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  Comment by Blogger Sir Robert at 1:09 PM, May 04, 2006
"Join our new 3-step program!"

The fool believes in the system, believing that the form contians the content. The clever man, frustrated, sees this is untrue, and frees himself from the system, disdaining it.
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Euangellion
Posted by Dwight at 7:36 AM
The first thing Jesus says in the Gospel of Mark is: "The time has come, the kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"

The Good News, or Gospel, seems to be a big thing ;-) What is it?

It is termed "the gospel of the grace of God" (Acts 20:24), "the gospel of the kingdom" (Matt. 4:23), "the gospel of Christ" (Rom. 1:16), "the gospel of peace (Eph. 6:15), "the glorious gospel," "the everlasting gospel," "the gospel of salvation" (Eph. 1:13). (according to Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary). I'd like to know your views...

It also seems that disagreement on what exactly the gospel is causes division in the church. You get things like "The Gospel of the Prayer of Jabez" (of 1 Chronicles 4:10 fame by Bruce Wilkenson) or "The Gospel of Your Best Life Now" (by Joel Osteen) or "The Gospel of a Purpose Driven Life" (by Dr. Rick Warren.)

All those books authors would probably say all the "right things" when pressured, but it seems to me there is this constant drive to market things as good news to Christians which aren't the Good News. Is this because the Good News isn't good enough? Jesus said that when we drank of his water, we would no longer thirst (John 4:14) so what is up with all this thirsting?
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Sunday, April 23, 2006
Posted by Jackson at 11:30 PM
hi, blog. I'm Jackson Ferrell. I was a Johnnie for two years, then I transferred to Washington College for a variety of reasons that subtly change every time I tell them to people. Basically it was a practicality issue--not on the level of job utility or anything (after all, I am an English major), but at the simple level of the questioning involved. I knew things, and it wasn't useful for me to be continually encouraged to question things I already knew. St. John's is a good fit for a certain sort of person...I proved not to be that sort of person.
But enough about that. um...what else about me? I like to do creative things. I like to write stories and make up poems and draw stuff and generally just bring something into being that wasn't there before. Like God did at the creation of the universe, except that I have to work with what He's already created and I can't make anything ex nihilo. every time I think about God coming up with the universe with nothing to inspire Him except His own creative ideas, it blows my mind. I mean seriously! wow!
one of my favorite theologians is Francis Schaeffer. his ideas are very orthodox and sound, he's very sensible, but he approaches theology from a unique angle and emphasizes aspects of biblical theology that...well...don't always get all the air time they should. and yet still manages to stay grounded in the central point of the Bible: salvation in Christ. I'm also a big big fan of C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia, and if I had to tell you exactly how pumped I am about the recent Narnia movie and the upcoming production of "Prince Caspian" that's slated for a December 2007 release...well, I would use extremely enthusiastic words to tell you how pumped I am. words like "pumped."
well, it's getting late, so I should be going to bed. but yeah. most of you know me in some way or another already. I'm gonna be graduating this May! woohoo!
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Saturday, April 22, 2006
The Eagle has landed
Posted by Nate at 3:04 PM
Looks like an interesting experiment, Kristi--thanks for the invitation.

My name is Nate Eagle, I'm an alumnus of A'03. I'm a pastor's kid; my father is a pastor in the Evangelical Covenant Church. (Other Johnnie Covenanters: Hayden Brockett, Katherine Nehring. Any I'm missing?) I went to Cameroon (Africa) with the Peace Corps after I graduated, then left after a year, utterly disenchanted with the role of the first world in Africa. (Thinking of joining the Peace Corps? Don't.) I'm now working quite happily as a web designer in Alexandria, VA, and I'm rather proud to be a mildly sophisticated cog in the greater machine of wealth generation that we call America.

My favorite program authors were Pascal, Kant, and Baudelaire. My least favorite contemporary Christian writer is Dallas Willard. (But so many to choose from!) My favorite is Richard John Neuhaus.
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Howdy
Posted by Dwight at 8:52 AM
Hey, I'm Dwight... I'm living in Durham NC in a johnniecolony... I have a blog over at http://dwightk.com

I really liked Lincoln's speeches quite a bit...
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Hello from Matt Talamini!
Posted by Matt Talamini at 8:24 AM
Hello, everybody! My name is Matt Talamini, Annapolis class of 2005. I don't really know what to say. Hmmm... A brief bio, I suppose. Here:

I am a Conservative Protestant Christian who has spent the year since graduation as a proffesional computer nerd. I have an ongoing project to create a computer program that writes poetry (This is not easy to do, and I have not succeeded yet). My favorite philosophical book (Besides the B.I.B.L.E.) was Kant's Critique of Judgement, which I had a precept on. If I could take one thing out of my burning house, it would be my hard drive(s).

Is that the sort of thing you wanted, Kristi?
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yea, that's perfect. ;)
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006
build it and they will come...
Posted by Kristi at 11:10 AM
Field of Dreams anyone? You could say I have been both inspired and nostalgic; I've been aware of a lack and seeking a way to fill it.

Nostalgic: Missing good conversations and fellowship with like-minded individuals. This I found in abundance in various circles while I was at St. John's in Annapolis. The most significant instances were outside the classroom, and mostly amongst other Christ followers.

Inspired: I began to think, how can I create outlets for good conversation and good fellowship? Having left the college community in 2004, and moving back to Kentucky, I sought friends who would read books with me and sit down to discuss them. I sought out fellowship with other Christians in a local church... These have all been fruitful. But I still missed the community among believers back at SJC. I contemplated how I could stay connected with Johnnies even though I was living far away from them. So I have been maintaining my own blog over at beingtransformed.blogspot.com, and as one friend commented, it has sort of become a meeting place for Johnnies as people post comments over there. I also have been a reader of boarsheadtavern.com, a site where over 30 Christians from diverse backgrounds keep a lively conversation going; I have been encouraged by its long- standing success and fruitfulness.

Keeping these things in mind, I decided to try a group blog to incorporate my fellow Johnnies and brothers and sisters in Christ into a big on-going conversation via the web. I still plan on maintaining my own personal blog, but the purpose here at sjcfellowship.blogspot.com is to keep our connection as friends and family going.

So what will we do here? We will talk theology, or wax philosophical. We can share announcements and prayer requests. And we'll probably talk about books, especially the Good Book.

So who is this for? Believers and Johnnies.

Believers: You follow Jesus Christ. We could say, basic agreement to the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, which is enough common ground for me.

Johnnies: You have attended St. John's College in either Annapolis or Santa Fe at some point, even if you didn't stay, or you are an honorary Johnnie. Honorary Johnnies include spouses of Johnnies, and those that get this honor by sharing the same Spirit and spirit of learning (perhaps the occasional midshipman or close relative, like a sibling).

If this interests you, well, join the conversation. Help make this place what you want it to be, as my only goal is to maintain close communication with those that gather here. For now, I will be the main administrator incase you have any questions, technical issues, suggestions, or monetary tips... ;) If you have a homepage or favorite website or online resource you'd like me to link on the sidebar, just shoot me an email. Posting pictures is also welcomed.

You may wonder, why Blogger? Well, of the Johnnies I know of who maintain their own blogs, Blogger seems to be the favored host. However, if this site is thriving a year or two from now, I may look into switching to somewhere else that would allow for greater freedom and flexibility. Also, in light of the fact that I will be moving to Belarus in a few short months (Lord-willing), and may not be stopping in here as frequently, I will be asking a few other individuals to oversee things and deal with the administrative stuff. If you are a bit of a computer techie and plan on being a contributor, let me know if this would also interest you...

So the St. John's College Fellowship blog has begun...
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Posted by Kristi at 10:21 AM
Welcome!
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